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Michael Behe's Darwin's Black Box: Paul Draper's Critique

By exapologist at 11/29/2008
Here is a series of posts on Paul Draper's important critique of Michael Behe's Darwin's Black Box, in his article, "Irreducible Complexity and Darwinian Gradualism: A Reply to Michael J. Behe", Faith and Philosophy 19:1 (2002), pp. 3-21.

Part I: Behe's Argument Stated and Explained
Part II: Three Bad but Popular Criticisms of Behe's Argument
Part III: Are Behe's Examples Really Irreducibly Complex?
Part IV: Behe's Revision
Part V: Are Indirect Evolutionary Pathways to Irreducible Complexity Really Too Improbable?
Part VI: Are Direct Evolutionary Pathways to Irreducible Complexity Really Impossible?

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