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June 24, 2011

Good without gods

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Rick O'Sheikh
Here is what Perplexity AI says about the looting of Constantinople in 1204: The sacking of Constantinople in April 1204 resulted in catastrophic damage and large-scale suffering for the...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 4 hours ago
Rick O'Sheikh
I have said this a couple of times before: When things are not hunky-dory between groups of the same religion, they will focus on the slightest difference between them, and conversely, when things...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 7 hours ago
Daniel Mocsny
I recall that Leah Libresco, when she converted from atheism to Catholicism, made a big deal of how moral judgments are like judgments in geometry and not like judgments in art...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 7 hours ago
Daniel Mocsny
I'm no expert on medieval history but I am pretty handy with a search engine (LOL):
The siege of Zara or siege of Zadar (Croatian: opsada Zadra; Hungarian: Zára ostroma; 10–24...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 8 hours ago
Daniel Mocsny
I would add a second and perhaps equally important function: feeding minds once they are opened. People abandon faith for a variety of reasons, often for just one particular reason, the reason that...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 8 hours ago
Rick O'Sheikh
Of course, they went waaaay beyond just feeding themselves or just getting the bare necessities to keep them going. If all they wanted was that, they could have begged the cities of Zara and...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 8 hours ago
Daniel Mocsny
A point emphasized in the book The Triumph of Sociobiology is that one can look at the diversity of human cultures and notice two distinct things: 1. That human cultures have a lot of...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 8 hours ago
Daniel Mocsny
And why did the Crusaders sack Christian towns on their way east?
Apparently because that time around God chose not to feed his army with manna from heaven. Pre-modern...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 8 hours ago
Daniel Mocsny
Does anyone have views on Anscombe's thesis that morality is a concept devoid of content because it is what remains of the concept of law, once a lawgiver is stripped out?...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 8 hours ago
Rick O'Sheikh
My take is that God is not involved at all in the discussion. It is an argument between one set of people talking for themselves directly and another set of people, also talking for themselves, but...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 11 hours ago
Ficino
Does anyone have views on Anscombe's thesis that morality is a concept devoid of content because it is what remains of the concept of law, once a lawgiver is stripped out? But without a...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 12 hours ago
josephpalazzo
Morality as being subjective is easy to argue for: 1) it changes in times (21st versus 2nd century) and 2) it varies from culture to culture (monogamy in the US, polygamy in SA). Across today’s...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 12 hours ago
Rick O'Sheikh
The way I see it, gods and religions are not even part of the equation when talking about “objective” morality. In spite of appearances, morality has always been a 100% human endeavor. Even when...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
Ficino
The thesis that moral facts exist necessarily, so that it's unnecessary to invoke God, is very interesting. I recall that Leah Libresco, when she converted from atheism to Catholicism, made a...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
Daniel Mocsny
It is as incoherent as claiming that an elephant and an apple belong to the same species: the categories simply don’t align.
Not that it affects your argument, but I have to...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
Daniel Mocsny
Yes, "social constructs" are not necessarily constructed out of nothing. Some early forms of money were tangible goods that were themselves readily fungible. And coins stamped from...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
josephpalazzo
Anyone who doesn't think money is "real" is welcome to send me all of theirs. I will be happy to take all that meaningless fiat money off their hands.
Another...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
Ignorant Amos
Nailed it in a nutshell. "In a nutshell" means to express something in a concise and brief way, using as few words as possible. It's a way of summarizing information,...

Debunking Christianity: Honest Sermons on the Gospel of Mark: Chapter 9 · 1 day ago
Daniel Mocsny
In the theistic imagination, ethics must be objective, because they see God as the guarantor of ultimate meaning.
And, I would add, because few theistic imaginations seem to...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
Daniel Mocsny
And another mistake people make is to equate "subjective" with "arbitrary" or "something I can easily change" or "something limited only by my...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
Rick O'Sheikh
Conclusion: It's all one huge pile of crazy shit, anyway.

Debunking Christianity: Honest Sermons on the Gospel of Mark: Chapter 9 · 1 day ago
Daniel Mocsny
One of the most persistent and profound mistakes people make is treating ethics and morality as if they were objective features of the universe rather than subjective...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
Ignorant Amos
What I was trying to say is that if I were a police investigator interrogating a suspect today and he was talking in that kind of vague language I would not allow him to get away...

Debunking Christianity: Honest Sermons on the Gospel of Mark: Chapter 9 · 1 day ago
Daniel Mocsny
I see moral facts as being in the same category as monetary facts. Anyone who doesn't think money is "real" is welcome to send me all of theirs. I will be happy to take all that...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago
josephpalazzo
One of the most persistent and profound mistakes people make is treating ethics and morality as if they were objective features of the universe rather than subjective constructs. Richard Carrier,...

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier, David Kyle Johnson, and I, Oh My! · 1 day ago

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