Billy Graham Now Believes People of All Religions (Or None) May Wind Up in Heaven, Admits He Can't Judge.


Transcript of Rev. Billy Graham's conversation with Rev. Schuller on "The Hour of Power" TV program:

Schuller: "Tell me, what is the future of Christianity?"

Billy Graham: "Well, Christianity and being a true believer, you know, I think there's the body of Christ which comes from all the Christian groups around the world, or outside the Christian groups. I think that everybody that loves Christ or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the body of Christ. And I don't think that we're going to see a great sweeping revival that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. What God is doing today is calling people out of the world for His name. Whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world, or the non-believing world, they are members of the body of Christ because they've been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus, but they know in their hearts they need something that they don't have and they turn to the only light they have and I think they're saved and they're going to be with us in heaven." [So Graham has apparently adopted the "anonymous Christian" view defended by liberal Catholic theologians like Hans Kung. I also suspect that Graham's view may have been influenced by seeing good friends die without becoming born again Evangelical Christians, including lifelong friend and fellow-evangelist-turned-agnostic, Charles Templeton, succumb to Alzheimer's.--E.T.B.]

Schuller: "What I hear you saying is that it's possible for Jesus Christ to come into a human heart and soul and life even if they've been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you're saying?"

Graham: "Yes it is because I believe that. I've met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, have never heard of Jesus but they've believed in their hearts that there is a God and they tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived."

Schuller: "This is fantastic. I'm so thrilled to hear you say that. There's a wideness in God's mercy.

Graham: There is. There definitely is."

[SOURCE: The Hour of Power television program #1426, "Say 'Yes' To Possibility Thinking," aired May 32, 1997]

"When asked whether he believes heaven will be closed to good Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus or secular people... Graham says:

'Those are decisions only the Lord will make. It would be foolish for me to speculate on who will be there and who won't... I don't want to speculate about all that. I believe the love of God is absolute. He said he gave his son for the whole world, and I think he loves everybody regardless of what label they have.'"

[SOURCE: Jon Meacham, Pilgrim’s Progress: In the Twilight, Billy Graham Shares What He’s Learned in Reflecting on Politics and Scripture, Old Age and Death, Mysteries and Moderation, Newsweek, Oct. 15, 2007]

Check out these videos concerning Billy Graham on YouTube:
This one provides the above "Hour of Power" video.

On Larry King Live

John MacArthur talking about Billy Graham's stance.

OTHER WAYS IN WHICH GRAHAM'S VIEWS HAVE MELLOWED OVER THE YEARS

Rev. Graham was caught on the “Nixon tapes” complaining to the president about “the Jews” and their “stranglehold” on the media, and blaming them for “all the pornography.” Even after the president replied that he agreed but “you can’t say that” in public, Graham pressed the point: Yes, right, but if you get elected to a second term, then we could do something about the problem. Graham added that while many Jews were friendly to him, “they don’t know how I really feel about what they are doing to this country.” [After the Nixon tapes came to light Graham said he had no memory of ever having said such a thing, but none the less he apologized profusely multiple times after hearing them for himself.]

[SOURCE: David Vest, The Rebel Angel, ‘They Don’t Know How I Really Feel’ Billy Graham, Tangled Up in Tape, March 5, 2002, Counterpunch]

In 1965, Billy Graham dismissed demonstrations for peace in Vietnam, saying, “It seems the only way to gain attention today is to organize a march and protest something.”

[SOURCE: Jon Meacham, Pilgrim’s Progress: In the Twilight, Billy Graham Shares What He’s Learned in Reflecting on Politics and Scripture, Old Age and Death, Mysteries and Moderation, Newsweek]

Rev. Graham was caught on the Nixon tapes giving a wholehearted thumbs up to the controversial plan by some of president Nixon’s military advisors to “bomb the damns” in North Vietnam which would have drowned many and starved a million or more North Vietnamese by draining the water used for their rice paddies. (The plan was never carried out.)

[SOURCE: Alexander Cockburn, The Lord’s Avenger: When Billy Graham Wanted to Kill One Million People, March 12, 2002, Counterpunch]

10 comments:

Harry H. McCall said...

Billy Graham used his access to the Presidents to further his religious political agenda and they, likewise, used Graham to advance their on political causes with Christian America.

After Watergate, Graham said he would never get that close to any U. S. president again, but with Southern Baptist Jimmy Carter election, Graham was again “Front and Center” in the political lime light.

What we now find is that once the religious veneer is pulled off with age, we are exposed to the real Billy Graham just as we were exposed to the real Mother Teresa.

John said...

I'm glad to hear that Billy Graham now believes that I can continue in my belief in my Higher Power and reject the child killing, human sacrificing, God of Christianity and still may make it to heaven and not be tormented forever.

Of course I could be deluded about the whole Higher Power thing.

Steven Carr said...

It is amazing how Billy Graham can know these mysterious ways of his alleged god.

GRAHAM'Yes it is because I believe that.'


CARR
He is just making it all up, folks!


The logic goes :-

I believe something.
Therefore, it is true.


Who cares what Billy Graham believes? He may as well tell us about the dream he had last night.

That would be just as fact-free.

Doesn't he have any actual knowledge of anything?

Why do people listen to people who make things up, say that they believe them, and then claim that it must be true?

Steven Bently said...

Billy Graham is the ultimate authority on the word of god, he is even smarter than Jesus, at least he kept himself from being crucified.

Of course, I think both are(were) idiots.

J said...

I am so glad that I found this blog.

Obscenitease® Apparel said...

[Schuller: "This is fantastic. I'm so thrilled to hear you say that. There's a wideness in God's mercy.

Graham: There is. There definitely is." ]


What do we make of this when we see this sort of 'revelation' taking place... this evolution in Christian thought?

What happened to 'Accepting Christ is the Only Way'?

This kind of thinking confirms my tongue-in-cheek belief that Christians would do best to STOP all EVANGELISM. Most understand that statistically speaking, the majority of those who hear the message of Christ will reject it (save childhood indoctrination) and most Christians would believe that hell is in the future of these.

However, Billy Graham says that God's mercy is WIDE. How could God send someone to hell that never heard? Well... if we want a lot of people to go to heaven... all Evangelism should cease... IMMEDIATELY! :-)

Buuutttt... they like their piety and their mission too much to do what's best for people's eternal lives! LOL!

HeIsSailing said...

Wow. Those photos of young Billy Graham are amazing.

PhillyChief said...

People mellow with age I guess, especially when their end is near. Don't want to risk making a mistake with some of that old hate speech of the past now. Nope, just love and mercy, love and mercy.

Unknown said...

I recall several interesting conversations with my self-proclaimed atheist college buddy. Looking back on those conversations I am often amused at how he could so fervently hate the God who he claimed didn't exist. The truth is, he really did believe in a God, he just didn't like Him very much.

PhillyChief said...

I often make references to the Evil Mouse when talking about the business dealings of Disney. I hate that mouse, but of course I know he's not real, only the evil empire that began from him exists. Are you sure your friend wasn't hating a god like I hate the Mouse?