tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post7594680797702033073..comments2023-12-01T18:05:24.875-05:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: The Newest Books on Evolution.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-7682142600620082582009-03-06T12:12:00.000-05:002009-03-06T12:12:00.000-05:00Would the usefulness or existence of an umbrella b...<I>Would the usefulness or existence of an umbrella be in question without a working theory of meteorology?<BR/><BR/>In the same way, the validity or factual nature of Evolution does not require a working theory of Abiogenesis.</I><BR/><BR/>KH> I hear that a lot. That's why I said it always gets back to which worldview best accounts for all the data. A full-orbed worldview would include considerations of both Evolution and Abiogenesis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-5137065197571663882009-03-05T21:50:00.000-05:002009-03-05T21:50:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Emanuel Goldsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02653303041185240250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-3920626984876866162009-03-05T20:08:00.000-05:002009-03-05T20:08:00.000-05:00John,Both titles are master works of explaining ev...John,<BR/><BR/>Both titles are master works of explaining evolution, and both demonstrate the amazing power of evolution as a predictive tool.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if you've blogged about it, but Coyne has a discussion on edge.org(discussing his February 04, 2009 article, "Seeing and Believing" in "The New Republic") concerning the compatibility of science and religion and the never-ending attempt to reconcile them. It's a fine article and it has several responses by notable academics. http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/coyne09/coyne09_index.html <BR/><BR/>Also, thank you for pointing me to Lobdell's "Losing My Religion." It was heartwrenching to read and I can scarcely imagine how painful it was to write. Perhaps your strategy for de-Christianizing the world should include getting more people to cover the religion beat as investigative reporters.<BR/><BR/>Per your endorsement I've ordered Eller's "Atheism Advanced" through amazon.com and am looking forward to reading it.Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15316459700934662467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-49275464161425804482009-03-05T18:37:00.000-05:002009-03-05T18:37:00.000-05:00I agree! I found this book in Chapters not too lon...I agree! I found this book in Chapters not too long ago, and put it up on my Amazon wishlist for later...another book that seems like a good one (though don't quote me on it) is "Scientists Confront Creationism", edited by Andrew Petto and Laurie Godfrey. It might be seen as a little more confrontational, but it also has the advantage of giving the views of more than one scientist on the matter.<BR/><BR/>Take it for what it's worth :DJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07878734919633437792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-82100615910540143182009-03-05T17:58:00.000-05:002009-03-05T17:58:00.000-05:00"After reading it you will then need to reconcile ..."After reading it you will then need to reconcile the fact of evolution with what you find in Genesis, and that prospect is not promising at all."<BR/><BR/>Why? I agree with respect to a YEC, but where does (for example) Ken Miller's reasoning fall apart?Sinbadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116688014786297876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-57851947540689510942009-03-05T17:03:00.000-05:002009-03-05T17:03:00.000-05:00Thanks for the recommendation. I've been looking f...Thanks for the recommendation. I've been looking for a good book on Evolution that relatively easy to read.<BR/><BR/>I'll have to check it out! :)Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859405216390259275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-84422416967369478452009-03-05T16:40:00.000-05:002009-03-05T16:40:00.000-05:00I will check out Coyne's book but I think the issu...<B>I will check out Coyne's book but I think the issue goes back further. We must account for the matter and energy itself in order to have a full-orbed worldview.</B><BR/><BR/>Kevin, <BR/><BR/>Would the usefulness or existence of an umbrella be in question without a working theory of meteorology?<BR/><BR/>In the same way, the validity or factual nature of Evolution does not require a working theory of Abiogenesis.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193595678064010528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-10307403845969415552009-03-05T14:37:00.000-05:002009-03-05T14:37:00.000-05:00Mark Plus,cuz we're special?Mark Plus,<BR/><BR/>cuz we're special?Jason Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10288789613402007006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-14287575779018146682009-03-05T12:38:00.000-05:002009-03-05T12:38:00.000-05:00Somewhat off topic: I wonder what creationists mak...Somewhat off topic: I wonder what creationists make of all those <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet" REL="nofollow">exoplanets</A> astronomers keep finding? If mindless natural processes can roll interstellar matter into planets around other stars, then why do we need to postulate a god to account for the matter rolled into our planet?Mark Plushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859046131830902921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-15487894938144646632009-03-05T11:50:00.000-05:002009-03-05T11:50:00.000-05:00We must account for the matter and energy itself i...<I>We must account for the matter and energy itself in order to have a full-orbed worldview.</I><BR/><BR/>All right, I'll bite. What the heck are you talking about?Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00231512403452969975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-34308604673431410622009-03-05T10:24:00.000-05:002009-03-05T10:24:00.000-05:00Thanks Kevin, I'm trying to keep up with current b...Thanks Kevin, I'm trying to keep up with current books and it's tough to do.<BR/><BR/>You're right to point out my problem though, and yet...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-45621906781581792072009-03-05T10:17:00.000-05:002009-03-05T10:17:00.000-05:00John,I've been really depending on your book recom...John,<BR/><BR/>I've been really depending on your book recommendations lately. Thanks!<BR/><BR/>I will check out Coyne's book but I think the issue goes back further. We must account for the matter and energy itself in order to have a full-orbed worldview.<BR/><BR/>IMO, my atheist friends need to wake up and smell that Metaphysical Naturalism, or any of its kin, falls short.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-17981569185481227302009-03-05T09:52:00.000-05:002009-03-05T09:52:00.000-05:00I heard Coyne interviewed on NPR a couple weeks ag...I heard Coyne interviewed on NPR a couple weeks ago, don't know if it is available in their archives. I was impressed by his clarity in describing not just evolution but also in where he sees faith and reason as incompatable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com