tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post6450666890974310435..comments2023-12-01T18:05:24.875-05:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: Revealing the Reasoning of the Believer: A Review of Jason Long's Book, The Religious ConditionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-85918725394881038162009-10-04T22:16:48.058-04:002009-10-04T22:16:48.058-04:00I challenge atheists who say we just don't hav...I challenge atheists who say we just don't have our brains in gear: 166 years ago Abbott showed that contiguous geometrical worlds explain where God is and why we can't see him. So we wrote 'Techie Worlds' for mechanical people and did the scientific thing: we looked at Christian teachings like the Trinity, like resurrection, judgment, the idea of a soul. In contiguous geometrical worlds these things are logical and understandable, even though to 'this-world-only' atheists they are ridiculous imaginings.<br /> We see a lot of belief in devils, in miracles, in good and evil spirits. Just talk with your friendly Wiccas and Satanists. Their recognition of spirit worlds makes it more probable that our view of the world is correct. Besides, there is Pascal's wager, pointing out that Christian belief can reward while atheism surely leads to death. The labels: Thinking, Logical, Reasonable, Rational really belong to Christians more than to those proudly acclaimed agnostics. Get a copy of 'Techie Worlds' from www.amazon.com and see the reasonableness of Abbott's explanation.<br /><br />GeorgeRicGeorgeRichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13617472632756484543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-5397320168001972702009-01-25T12:46:00.000-05:002009-01-25T12:46:00.000-05:00"One story he tells from the Journal of Abnormal a..."One story he tells from the Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology is about an evangelical group who believed there was going to be a nuclear attack so they went into a bomb shelter for 42 days before coming out to find no nuclear attack had happened. So what did they conclude? Not that they were wrong. No sirree Bob. “Rather than accepting the obvious conclusion that they had erred in their prediction, group members proclaimed that their beliefs had been instrumental in stopping the nuclear attack.”<BR/><BR/>L.o.L !!<BR/><BR/>That story reminds me of a religious guru i was told about that was once in the area where im living now.I met one of his former followers who told me he had suggested such things as supposedly those that followed the faith would be saved picked up in some kind of space craft or something he thought .This guru had even decided on a certain rock outcrop where this pick up would likely happen .<BR/>One day he foresaw a earthquake happening and supposedly received a exact date and time it was supposed to happen.The small gathering of followers he had gathered around him over time were so sure he knew what he was talking about,on the day it was supposed to happen they closed up their businesses and all went with him to wait at this scared rock outcrop.A place they had all visited before,at times.<BR/><BR/>:) Counting down the minutes and seconds in great suspense as they all faithfully waited patiently.<BR/><BR/>Nothing came of it of course ,and they all returned back to their homes and businesses .Most said nothing about it ,i was told most felt rather stupid ! in this case.Although evidently they went about life rather gingerly for a few days ,just in case the gurus dates and time had just been a little bit wrong. <BR/><BR/>When i was told of who some of the other people were who had believe this stuff ,i was quite surprised.And it just reminded me how people can be talked into believing almost anything if the right tactics are used.Gandolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624178234332819107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-67427659272614908072009-01-24T02:19:00.000-05:002009-01-24T02:19:00.000-05:00Hi Jason,I believe they should as well. Getting t...Hi Jason,<BR/>I believe they should as well. Getting the believer to commit to that is the hard part!<BR/>;-)<BR/>On! On!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17353286859864448748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-25219921597751835862009-01-23T21:39:00.000-05:002009-01-23T21:39:00.000-05:00wtf?wtf?Jason Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10288789613402007006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-45803389683734313452009-01-23T18:21:00.000-05:002009-01-23T18:21:00.000-05:00What are you talking about Way7773? I know you sai...What are you talking about Way7773? I know you said you have some personal disabilites but in order to post here you must make sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-86421113182924279382009-01-23T18:18:00.000-05:002009-01-23T18:18:00.000-05:0038% to 25% probably does not indicate a significan...38% to 25% probably does not indicate a significant statistical difference between 5 or 6 options if I remember nonparametric statistics when I published my Pychology articles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-35883219840620436752009-01-23T18:09:00.000-05:002009-01-23T18:09:00.000-05:00I believe they alone can demonstrate the absurdity...I believe they alone can demonstrate the absurdity of religion.<BR/><BR/>1:34 PM, January 23, 2009<BR/><BR/>Religion is absurd but faith which is the receptivity of God in Christ's activity for me as an Ephesian 1:3-14 message of Truth the gospel of our salvation has yet to be unproven as absurd. One cannot prove or disprove except by fact faith experience see "eido" know obtained by prayer and Holy Spirit transmission Spirit to spirt in a believer. proustis verify word or Faustus verified?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-33057992185188712382009-01-23T16:38:00.000-05:002009-01-23T16:38:00.000-05:00Jason,I can't wait to read your book. I appreciat...Jason,<BR/><BR/>I can't wait to read your book. I appreciate your humility.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640897879248565277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-59036904534907813722009-01-23T13:34:00.000-05:002009-01-23T13:34:00.000-05:00Lee,I owe my capacity for freethought to the persu...Lee,<BR/><BR/>I owe my capacity for freethought to the persuasive psychology class I took nine years ago. Those were the two texts we used. I believe they alone can demonstrate the absurdity of religion.Jason Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10288789613402007006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-3052817744375699752009-01-23T11:30:00.000-05:002009-01-23T11:30:00.000-05:00Hi John, Jason,Citing from the most authoritative ...Hi John, Jason,<BR/><B><I>Citing from the most authoritative books on persuasive psychology, one written by Robert B. Cialdini, titled Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion, and another one written by Richard E. Petty and John Cacioppo, titled Attitudes and Persuasion: Classic and Contemporary Approaches, </I></B><BR/>hmmmmmmm,<BR/>those books look really familiar, where have i seen them before....hmmm [tap, tap, tap, on my chinny, chin, chin, looking pensively off into space]<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>so Jason, maybe you are the one that bought the Petty and Cacioppo book out from under me at alibris!<BR/><BR/>I didn't realize anyone else saw the debunking value those books had!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17353286859864448748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-18059881580111341902009-01-22T19:26:00.000-05:002009-01-22T19:26:00.000-05:00Thank you very much for the review John. Readers c...Thank you very much for the review John. Readers can view excerpts at www.thereligiouscondition.comJason Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10288789613402007006noreply@blogger.com