tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post5567722107190424784..comments2023-12-01T18:05:24.875-05:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: Advice to People Who Leave the FoldUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger185125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-27878464605714397102009-08-12T15:55:03.231-04:002009-08-12T15:55:03.231-04:00I just want to say thank you for providing this si...I just want to say thank you for providing this site. I recently left the fold and was looking for information. This has been a great tool for me. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for this site!Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17627370073598303452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-11791773295642820162009-07-29T00:30:12.328-04:002009-07-29T00:30:12.328-04:00"God heals. He made our body the way it is. I..."God heals. He made our body the way it is. It is all His doing."<br />oh, rich, that IS rich. So if god heals our bodies he must then be the one to mess them up? so he made my plantar wart before he healed it and . . . well, the unhealed bunion and the unhealed arthritis and the unhealed allergies and . . . well, he sure does suck then if he made it all messed up and only healed PART of it and only heals for SOME people . . . what a crappy mean inconsistant god he is . . .goprairiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532311590000341237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-23808921348005340772009-07-28T12:50:27.619-04:002009-07-28T12:50:27.619-04:00"God does not heal amputees because there is ..."God does not heal amputees because there is nothing left to heal! The leg is gone!"<br /><br />But apparently god saw fit to endow the Axolotl Salamander with the ability to regrow limbs, skin, organs and even spinal cords and parts of the brain.<br /><br />So again why won't god heal amputees?Scarecrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324151298399098144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-52359625323339297922009-07-28T05:02:09.327-04:002009-07-28T05:02:09.327-04:00savedbygraces experience might hold more proof of ...savedbygraces experience might hold more proof of validity if these type of suggested miracles ever became more obvious to us all.<br /><br />But they never do! these so called miracles have always been only in the domain of the person who tells us they have some faith in them.They are never documented and proved with proper evidence.And ones that are scientifically studied are soon debunked time and time again,and if they were not they would soon become news worldwide!.Faith beliefs would soon soar to new heights if they were proved and in time maybe even need for hospitals would become obsolete.Saving much cost economically as well.<br /><br />But as is even so with religious books as well! all we actually ever have to rely on is faith in people hopefully always telling us the truth.When relativity in this world by our experiences tells us already blatantly! that quite often people just cannot be trusted at all,and that its often ever better to decide who should or shouldnt be trusted by looking for good evidence that backs up their claims.<br /><br />So why in a world where we really need so often to rely so much on finding good evidence to really believe any of peoples claims,would a god ever be likely to create us with expectations we would ever be likely to throw much weight on what only really adds up to religious faith?. <br /><br />Why cant people understand this when all they can ever come up with to try to convince us,is the special pleading of their own supposed experiences?.What is really only ever going to be superstition, without the forthcoming of some decent proof that really proves otherwise.Gandolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624178234332819107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-62403850165267559322009-07-27T21:56:41.207-04:002009-07-27T21:56:41.207-04:00God heals. He made our body the way it is. It is a...God heals. He made our body the way it is. It is all His doing.Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16765388575104085690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-7854139331240789012009-07-27T19:11:53.097-04:002009-07-27T19:11:53.097-04:00the mind and the body 'heal'themselves eve...the mind and the body 'heal'themselves every day in apparently random ways and this happens to people with and without faith equally. warts are finally conquered by the body, the high from smoking finally ceases to be, the fear of something suddenly is no more. saved claims it was sudden, yet knew for years it was 'wrong' and so the brain was 'trying' to find ways to stop even if the person was not purposely trying. i promised a friend i would quit smoking and i did and every time i was around smokers, it was difficult to resist. then one day i was with a group of smokers and realized i did not care. my brain finally lost interest in the chemical thrill of the smoke. it was obviously not god come to save this atheist. it was brain chemistry passing some threshold. people have tumors that the body gradually stops and erodes away until gone and often they never knew they had them. i was afraid of water for years and purposely worked to desensitize myself, yet still felt the panic just below the surface. two weeks ago, out in the canoe in waves that would have pushed me to panic i had to control, i realized i was enjoying the rocking of my little boat. no god. my brain just got used to being safe in the boat in those conditions and stopped shooting adrenalin into my system in that situation. had i been a god-loving person, i am pretty sure i would attribute those 'miracles' to god, but they are not miracles. they are things the body and brain regularly engage in, and the point where the body or brain suddenly pass the threshold from still trying to success is not a miracle, but the end of a process the person is often not even aware of, just like digestion, heartbeat, and the feelings of joy at seeing the face of a loved one, other things we atheists know are from instinct and brain and body chemistry, but the religious also often call 'miracles'. you can't convince me my wart went away due to a miracle and i cant convine the christian theirs went away due to a change in body chemistry.goprairiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532311590000341237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-5030872182888803652009-07-27T17:01:27.707-04:002009-07-27T17:01:27.707-04:00What is "the fold"???What is "the fold"???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-26696444971066453602009-07-27T13:58:15.401-04:002009-07-27T13:58:15.401-04:00God does not heal amputees because there is nothin...God does not heal amputees because there is nothing left to heal! The leg is gone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-61134913231941278832009-07-27T13:05:05.561-04:002009-07-27T13:05:05.561-04:00Saved,
In case it's not clear, I do not thin...Saved, <br /><br />In case it's not clear, I do not think the Buddha's teachings actually "speak" to me. I think I have an ah-ha moment of understanding when I read them. This does not require a supernatural cause. <br /><br /><b>Can Buddha tell you your future in very specific detail? Can Mohammed instantly heal you? Can either one free you miraculously and instantly from an overpowering addiction? </b><br /><br />No they have not cannot, but neither has the Christian God. <br /><br />Should I have a ah-ha moment while reading or contemplating a particular teaching then think how that teaching might resolve something I'm struggling with in some point in the future, the actual resolution of said issue does not mean some supernatural being must have been involved. You'd have to show how this was not simply statistical chance. <br /><br />As for being instantly healed, I'd expect evidence of both detailed existence of a disease and evidence of it's instant disappearance. <br /><br />In addition, why has there been no claims of God having healed an amputee?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193595678064010528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-21835617299815364222009-07-27T11:14:38.314-04:002009-07-27T11:14:38.314-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-627443571212706112009-07-25T17:20:01.253-04:002009-07-25T17:20:01.253-04:00It seems like there are some atheists on here with...It seems like there are some atheists on here with a touch of the SWINE flu. I will be praying for your sorry asses. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-77972950992847618072009-07-25T16:46:43.147-04:002009-07-25T16:46:43.147-04:00More swine! LOOKOUT!
"Anything But God! Any...More swine! LOOKOUT! <br /><br />"Anything But God! Anything! Oh please help us poor atheists! We do not know what to do or what to say! HELP!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-46352492409841591522009-07-25T16:36:33.808-04:002009-07-25T16:36:33.808-04:00It wasn't zombie jesus that cured SBG's po...It wasn't zombie jesus that cured SBG's porn addiction it was the devil. Hep lucy her self. <br /><br />Why there was SBG wasting his days waxing his pole and the devil said "cure this dweeb and he'll think it was baby jesus and go online to annoy people with a false miricle story thus driving away possible converts to baby jesus's side. <br /><br />Well what do you think? It seems to explain all the evidence and it sure is working well no?<br /><br />LOL<br /><br />PS: Can satan do miricles?Scarecrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324151298399098144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-81835506826635138452009-07-25T15:27:42.641-04:002009-07-25T15:27:42.641-04:00Greg,
Thanks for confirming my previous post and ...Greg,<br /><br />Thanks for confirming my previous post and the wisdom of the holy Scriptures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-65421982757413858692009-07-25T15:18:31.199-04:002009-07-25T15:18:31.199-04:00You're incoherent, pal.You're incoherent, pal.Greg Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362936189772706298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-31949560906920109002009-07-25T15:16:03.282-04:002009-07-25T15:16:03.282-04:00Greg,
Swine do not know what pearls are and canno...Greg,<br /><br />Swine do not know what pearls are and cannot recognize their value and worth, just as you cannot recognize the pearls that God has given me. See that, the Bible is correct again! Wondeful thing that Bible!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-56515761409743905972009-07-25T15:05:23.317-04:002009-07-25T15:05:23.317-04:00SBG -- Buddy, throw some pearls then.
You are an...SBG -- Buddy, throw some pearls then. <br /><br />You are an anonymous poster on a blog. I wouldn't buy a used woodchipper under these circumstances.<br /><br />I don't even disbelieve you. You haven't even made a concrete claim.Greg Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362936189772706298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-64315256280819086872009-07-25T14:44:04.839-04:002009-07-25T14:44:04.839-04:00Greg,
I have had way more than just an experience...Greg,<br /><br />I have had way more than just an experience! God has completely tranformed my life with no help from me! No counseling, no drugs, no rehab, no therapy, no psychology, and no other outside intervention - NONE! <br /><br />So why do you want to deny reality? I know why! Because you are forced to! You have no other choice. You are just another sad case of throwing pearls to swine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-61764219350916443672009-07-25T14:42:36.185-04:002009-07-25T14:42:36.185-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-60097674128662018542009-07-25T14:32:48.564-04:002009-07-25T14:32:48.564-04:00Can Buddha tell you your future in very specific d...Can Buddha tell you your future in very specific detail? Can Mohammed instantly heal you? Can either one free you miraculously and instantly from an overpowering addiction? <br /><br />I'm sure there are followers in every tradition that make claims that can't be substantiated, just as in every tradition there must be schizotypes that have very real mental experiences that can seem like the intervention of supernatural forces. <br /><br />There is also in every tradition people whose memories of an event are wrong and they reverse engineer an explanation to suit what their current beliefs. <br /><br />People have strokes, migraines, fugue states, psychotic incidents, waking dreams. All people, universally, have brains that function in a purely rational, dependable way a lot less than we realize. <br /><br />We are bipedal hunters with binocular vision, and as such, our brains have particular quirks and blind spots that come from our physiological circumstance. <br /><br />We're also story tellers, so there you go. <br /><br />BFG had an event that he has attached a narrative significance. Damned if any of us are going to talk him out of it.Greg Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362936189772706298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-64210201943342834312009-07-25T14:23:32.805-04:002009-07-25T14:23:32.805-04:00Hi Corky,
Yes, I am either lying, or I have exper...Hi Corky,<br /><br />Yes, I am either lying, or I have experienced a true miracle. You are FORCED to conclude that I must be lying. You have no other choice. Either that or I am completely delusional! <br /><br />You are forced to remain in denial, and to keep your head buried in the sand while yelling "It can't be true - it can't be true - HELP!" A very pathetic sight indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-86520484680955564852009-07-25T14:19:12.267-04:002009-07-25T14:19:12.267-04:00Hey Scott,
Can Buddha tell you your future in ver...Hey Scott,<br /><br />Can Buddha tell you your future in very specific detail? Can Mohammed instantly heal you? Can either one free you miraculously and instantly from an overpowering addiction? <br /><br />You experienced churchianity - not Christianity. You experienced a counterfeit and a substitute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-28344637096171707682009-07-25T14:08:51.973-04:002009-07-25T14:08:51.973-04:00It's amazing how a born again will lie and lie...It's amazing how a born again will lie and lie and lie for Jesus. However, when they keep it up long enough, they begin to contradict themselves. It happens every time.<br /><br />They will even invent "sock puppets" an have arguments with themselves - which they always win, of course.<br /><br />There is no limits to the deceptions and outright lies that these born agains will stoop to for the sake of Jesus.<br /><br />The intention is good, of course, it's to convert an unbeliever. At least they imagine it is "good" but it is not, it's lies based on a lie and that's never good.Corkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-17007511997370755482009-07-25T14:02:17.649-04:002009-07-25T14:02:17.649-04:00What if I were to say to you I could, through artf...What if I were to say to you I could, through artful application of electrodes to your limbic system, allow you to experience the undeniable and sublime presence of God?Greg Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362936189772706298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-90845028934600268392009-07-25T14:00:27.271-04:002009-07-25T14:00:27.271-04:00Saved wrote: cannot explain to you what you have ...Saved wrote: <b> cannot explain to you what you have never experienced. It will not make any sense to you. You first need to be born again and filled with the Holy Spirit before it will make any sense to you.</b><br /><br />Saved, I'd suggest that we shared a majority of these experiences, which you interpret as some form of supernatural communication. <br /><br />However, I've concluded this interpretation was incorrect over 10 years ago. This was due to a wide range of factors, many of which have been posted here on DC. <br /><br />In addition, I've had similar experiences reading books on Buddhism, philosophy and even fiction. Does this mean that the Buddha was speaking to me? <br /><br />Wrapping up my comments here, It's become clear that, should God exist, we have no sufficient means to discern between what would be his actual nature and what we desire God to be. The Christian God speaks to you just as Mohammed "talks" to Muslims and Buddhists teachings "speak" to me. Which seems to say that we're experiencing a process that occurs with our own minds and thoughts.<br /><br />Of course, you will assert otherwise, but have not provided any means to support this assertion.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193595678064010528noreply@blogger.com