tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post2024828079274395417..comments2023-12-01T18:05:24.875-05:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: More on the Outsider TestUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-20118619778636754642008-07-09T14:16:00.000-04:002008-07-09T14:16:00.000-04:00Justice and mercy. God's justice is perfect apart...Justice and mercy. God's justice is perfect apart from all loopholes or emotional contingencies. The wages of sin is death. Yes, that means any and all sin! THAT is Justice. God's mercy, however, is seen in connectiion with something called confession of sin and repentance (turning from sin). More than just saying "I'm sorry," the confessiion that touches God must be associated with the understanding that Jesus Christ has died for every sin. He has paaid the price that justice demands. In that acknowledgement alone rests our ability to receive God's mercful forgiveness of sin. This concept embraces the entirety of the Gospel message which is, "The Creator of all things desires a personal, eternal relationship with all people through His Son, Jesus Christ." Such a relationship can only exist with forgiven mankind, seeing that God is holy and, therefore, cannot abide with that which is unholy or sinful. God has mercifully provided the means whereby sinful man may be forgiven and thus enjoy an eternal relationship with Him. What about these truths do you not understand?DRJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02587784286169580446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-28101711370912384742007-03-22T19:25:00.000-04:002007-03-22T19:25:00.000-04:00Eve,By the way, have you read Alvin Plantinga's cr...Eve,<BR/><BR/>By the way, have you read Alvin Plantinga's critique of The God Delusion? He pretty much shows the sillyness of Dawkings position.<BR/><BR/>It's about as silly as the things you are saying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-23964999444764768012007-03-22T01:22:00.000-04:002007-03-22T01:22:00.000-04:00Eve,I can prove God exists. The Higher the value s...Eve,<BR/>I can prove God exists. The Higher the value something the more time you pay. It makes perfect sense. We are responsible for our actions. A fair God punishes sin. Why do you compare a Holy God to a space alien? They're not the same at all. I wasn't threatening you I was just telling you the facts. Why do you see me as a dangerous person? I've never tortured or murdered anybody. You're still in a box Eve. You have just switched boxes. That's all. I still think you're smart though. Are you a psychologist or something? If it causes me to blaspheme God I think I'll pass. I'll stick to the Bible. It's better than all that psychobabble. Those psychologist diognose people with problems they don't even have. It's kind of scarry. Eve, once again you take things out of context and apply them to the wrong things. Let me ask you somthing Eve. What are you trying to accomplish by arguing with me? Are you trying to help me? Or do you just want to be right? Do you think I'm sick because I believe in God? Do you want to wipe me off the face of the earth? Would it make feel better if you got to beat my head in?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-22541175334770257992007-03-21T20:01:00.000-04:002007-03-21T20:01:00.000-04:00Calvin: Eve we are talking about a Holy God. We a...<I>Calvin: Eve we are talking about a Holy God. We are talking about a Being who is infinite in value and worth.</I><BR/><BR/>Again, only for <I>you</I>; I do not and cannot share this belief because you cannot prove to <I>my</I> satisfaction that this being exists outside your concept of it.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: When you sin against a Being that is infinite in value there are infinite consequences.</I><BR/><BR/>But this makes no sense whatsoever; a infinitely fair, just god cannot in all fairness and justice apply infinite consequences to flawed, imperfect, <I>finite</I> beings for doing something by definition finite without being malevolent, cruel, and capricious. In fact, I could argue that finite beings are incapable of doing <I>anything</I> to an infinite being period, let alone anything deserving infinite consequences. We would have to be able to do something infinite - which no one can prove we can - for this concept to make sense to me.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: God could destroy this whole planet right now if He wanted to. It's only by His common grace that you are still breathing right now. Especially after calling Him a megolomaniac.</I><BR/><BR/>Again, <I>so you say.</I> I could just as easily explain that the giant undetectable laser cannon orbiting the earth hasn't vaporized you because the time for my alien overlords to do so hasn't arrived yet. Even though <I>you</I> refuse to believe they exist.<BR/><BR/>In addition, this sounds like a threat. I don't respond well to threats or any being that has to resort to them in order to interact with me.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: Eve, I think that you are a really smart person. I read one of your articles on that female godess thing. You have just been decieved about the God of the Bible.</I><BR/><BR/>*sigh* No, I haven't. I finally stepped out of the box I was in, is all.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: You're taking things out of their proper context, culture, and time.</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, that's what <I>you're</I> doing: instead of applying what we now know about history, psychology, and human behavior to your belief system, you're taking the easy way out by saying in fact that <I>none of this applies to your god and belief system.</I> It's exactly the same thing muslim extremists say about their beliefs - that what they kill and die for is above the realm of common, ordinary humanity. The difference is that you, without realizing it, are unwilling to take your beliefs that far; your innate humanity finds those extremes distasteful, just like the moderate muslims who are appalled at what their extremist brethren are willing to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-55609304818848502502007-03-20T16:42:00.000-04:002007-03-20T16:42:00.000-04:00Eve I wasn't trying to gain control of the convers...Eve I wasn't trying to gain control of the conversation and I don't think that I'm losing an argument and I'm not trying to torture you like the Catholics were doing. Eve we are talking about a Holy God. We are talking about a Being who is infinite in value and worth. When you sin against a Being that is infinite in value there are infinite consequences. God could destroy this whole planet right now if He wanted to. It's only by His common grace that you are still breathing right now. Especially after calling Him a megolomaniac. Eve, I think that you are a really smart person. I read one of your articles on that female godess thing. You have just been decieved about the God of the Bible. You're taking things out of their proper context, culture, and time. By the way - I've never told a person that I love them hoping that they wouldn't know how to respond and cause them to walk away. That sounds a little demented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-87070901499891530382007-03-20T14:17:00.000-04:002007-03-20T14:17:00.000-04:00Calvin: No Eve this was at a particular time in h...<I>Calvin: No Eve this was at a particular time in history when a Holy God gave a particular command to His people to carry out His Holy and righteouss judgment against wickedness.</I><BR/><BR/>Oh, come on, pull your head out of the sand; you mean to tell me you see <I>nothing</I> at all suspicious about the fact that <I>ancient Hebrews</I> are writing a story about how <I>ancient Hebrews</I> killed an entire tribe of <I>non-Hebrew</I> people because the <I>Hebrew</I> god supposedly told them to?!<BR/><BR/>This is <I>exactly</I> the same rhetoric used by muslim terrorists to justify killing non-muslims and the Wrong Muslims (TM): because the muslim god ordered them to do so!<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: God formed the land in Genesis One and He can give it to whoever He pleases.</I><BR/><BR/>So <I>you</I> believe. I don't; in fact, I see this as more proof that the ancient Hebrews were trying to convince everyone that <I>their</I> god was the True God (TM), and that therefore every action they carried out in this alleged god's name was OK.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, this sounds an awful lot like the common parental threat to a disobedient child: "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it!" And yet how many normal, sane, healthy <I>human</I> parents actually follow through on this threat? Or worse yet, another parent's child?<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: I love you Eve</I><BR/><BR/>I doubt that very much. I used to be a xian, remember? This is what most xians use when they don't know what to say; they see they're losing an argument; they want to somehow gain control of a conversation; they want to make themselves look good/superior/holy/noble/martyred/persecuted (and conversely, their opponent bad/inferior/evil/oppressive); or they're hoping the other person won't know how to respond and will simply walk away so that they can claim victory. Heck, I've done and said it myself enough times to know.<BR/><BR/>It's also what the Catholic Inquisitors used to tell their victims over and over again as they subjected them to what we would consider unspeakable torture: "I love you...I'm doing this for your own good..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-90600231829238981402007-03-19T11:49:00.000-04:002007-03-19T11:49:00.000-04:00No Eve this was at a particular time in history wh...No Eve this was at a particular time in history when a Holy God gave a particular command to His people to carry out His Holy and righteouss judgment against wickedness. God formed the land in Genesis One and He can give it to whoever He pleases.<BR/><BR/>I love you EveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-24055644305308074742007-03-19T11:48:00.000-04:002007-03-19T11:48:00.000-04:00No Eve this was at a particular time in history wh...No Eve this was at a particular time in history when a Holy God gave a particular command to His people to carry out His Holy and righteouss judgment against wickedness. God formed the land in Genesis One and He can give it to whoever He pleases.<BR/><BR/>I love you EveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-31854189079865027592007-03-13T22:38:00.000-04:002007-03-13T22:38:00.000-04:00Calvin: Eve,/We must recognize that there are tim...<I>Calvin: Eve,/We must recognize that there are times when only radical surgery will save the life of a cancer stricken body.</I><BR/><BR/>True - except that these were <I>two totally separate bodies.</I> It wasn't a part of the ancient Hebrew community that was being exterminated - it was <I>another entirely different community.</I> A better analogy would be a man considering that a cousin who disagrees with him is thus a "cancer" that needs to be destroyed and following through on it by killing him.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: The whole population</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, down to the most recent newborn still suckling at its mother's breast.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: had become hopelessly infected with the cancer of moral depravity.</I><BR/><BR/>According to the ancient Hebrews' definition of such, <I>not</I> their own.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: The baneful infection had to be removed before Israel could safely settle down.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes - even though those "banefully infected" were there first. Now the situation is starting to sound like Pilgrims vs. Indians...<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: These incorrigible degenerates</I><BR/><BR/>Notice how your language increases in virulence and violence the closer you get to the ultimate genocide committed; you have no choice but to become more brutally insensitive in order to maintain your stance. The enemy is no longer merely diseased, but actively engaged in evil so extreme you're approaching the point of being able to justify and rationalize anything, no matter how horrible, to destroy this enemy.<BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: were a sinister threat to the spiritual survival of Abraham's race.</I><BR/><BR/>And yet even you recognize that this isn't a simple matter of chimps driving off another troop because they want their territory to survive; this horrific struggle, this monstrous enemy - which includes the most recent newborn suckling at its mother's breast! - is <I>not even a clear and present military or physical danger.</I><BR/><BR/><I>Calvin: We must refrain from condemnation of those who lived in the very different situation before the cross and acted in obedience and faith toward God.</I><BR/><BR/>"What 'we,' white man?"<BR/><BR/>I <I>do</I> condemn genocide, here and everywhere else. The language used to explain it, both in the bible and by you, is the same language used by the Europeans to justify attacking, enslaving, and in many cases actively seeking to exterminate the people who <I>were here first but were different from them.</I><BR/><BR/>The same language used by the Catholic Church to rationalize persecuting, torturing, and killing people <I>who believed other than they did.</I><BR/><BR/>The same language used to excuse the enslavement of people of color.<BR/><BR/>The same language used by Martin Luther to excuse marginalizing, persecuting, torturing, and killing so-called "witches."<BR/><BR/>The same language used by Hitler and the Nazis to justify the genocide they perpetrated on the Jews and luckless others.<BR/><BR/>The same language used by Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Trujillo, <I>et al.</I><BR/><BR/>The same language used by your fellow xians over at "God Hates Fags."<BR/><BR/>To anyone even marginally acquainted with the history of humanity and the psychology and language of dehumanization, persecution, and genocide, this side of the ancient Hebrews, their blood-thirsty god, and their obvious <I>apologia</I> represents yet another example of this all-too-common <I>human</I> flaw. Nothing "divine" about it - except as would befit a cruel, capricious, megalomaniacal deity.<BR/><BR/>The part about it all being OK just because it happened "before the cross" is sheer xian apologetic desperation - and you know it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-21044268807434695572007-03-10T20:11:00.000-05:002007-03-10T20:11:00.000-05:00Eve,We must recognize that there are times when on...Eve,<BR/><BR/>We must recognize that there are times when only radical surgery will save the life of a cancer stricken body. The whole population had become hopelessly infected with the cancer of moral depravity. The baneful infection had to be removed before Israel could safely settle down. These incorrigible degenerates were a sinister threat to the spiritual survival of Abraham's race. We must refrain from condemnation of those who lived in the very different situation before the cross and acted in obedience and faith toward God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-16283222727887643652007-03-09T21:40:00.000-05:002007-03-09T21:40:00.000-05:00Wow. Just when I thought Calvin's belief system c...Wow. Just when I thought Calvin's belief system couldn't possibly get more abhorrent...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-34140255837726189892007-03-09T19:50:00.000-05:002007-03-09T19:50:00.000-05:00Also to say we are born innocent is a false assump...Also to say we are born innocent is a false assumption. <BR/><BR/>Psalms 58:3<BR/><BR/>The wicked are estranged from the womb;<BR/>They go astay from birth, speaking lies.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Psalms 51:5<BR/><BR/>Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-58857671335947991642007-03-09T17:08:00.000-05:002007-03-09T17:08:00.000-05:00If survival of the fittest were the dominent force...If survival of the fittest were the dominent force shaping humanity, we might see some chaos and randomness, but not the kind of evil and suffering that fills our headlines daily. We humans are different from all other species. We have the powereful capacity for expressing evil. Unlike other species, we can inflict suffering on others for a variety of motives from revenge to perverse pleasure. Unlike other species, we kill other animals for sport, and we tend to kill the best, rather than the sick and the weak. As for killing our own species societies like Nazi Germany show that we are willing to slaughter and torture others. How much of the injury and death and even disease-promoting behyavior perpetrated by humans does anything to enhance the survival or well being of the perpetrator? A reality check informs us that we cannot chaulk up the evil and suffering in our world simply to natural process and survival instincts. Rather than proving the non-existence of a spiritual realm and Creator-God, evil and suffering-even by our recognition of their repugnance-provide evidence of a good God opposed by some supernatural enemy, a God for good reasons, some revealed in scripture, is currently restraining the exercise of His Almighty wrath against evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-52170207872442030792007-03-09T15:27:00.000-05:002007-03-09T15:27:00.000-05:00Intense morally putrid evil had spread and contami...Intense morally putrid evil had spread and contaminated the whole population. God brought the children into heaven to be with Him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-66891094632667371172007-03-09T09:57:00.000-05:002007-03-09T09:57:00.000-05:00If your God is so good and moral, then explain why...If your God is so good and moral, then explain why he commanded his people to kill the Canaanites. Not just the men. Not just the men and women. Men, women, children, newborn infants, unborn children, animals, everyone, all at the command of your God. <BR/><BR/>That is genocide. And genocide is evil. Just because you have the power to destroy an entire people down to the smallest and most innocent child does not make it moral to do so. If this is the god that exists, then yes, I do blaspheme him, and I will even fight him to the best of my ability. And I find the fact that you revere him in his genocide to be disgusting, and to speak volumes as to your character. <BR/><BR/>If you think that you are not a sycophant, then tell me: Is there anything that god could do that would make you no longer worship him as a good and holy being?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-61095545821851609782007-03-08T19:52:00.000-05:002007-03-08T19:52:00.000-05:00In Isaiah 10: 5-7, 12 we have God's Holy intention...In Isaiah 10: 5-7, 12 we have God's Holy intention of Judgeing His people through the means of Assyria - God permits their evil actions and holds them accountable for their sinful attitudes. God judges them on the basis of their intentions, and since they come against Israel with a haughty atitude they too are Judged. This is compatibalism with clarity. God allows the sinful actions of the Assyrians for the good purpose of Judging His people, and yet He Judges the Assyrians for their sinful intentions. God's action in His sovereignty is perfectly compatible with the responsible actions of sinful men. In Genesis 50:20 where Joseph, in the presense of his brothers refers back to their betrayal of him: As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive. The sinful action of betrayal and sale of Joseph into slavery is in view. Joseph's brothers meant their actions for evil but God meant it for good. Due to the intention of the hearts of Joseph's brothers, the action in the human realm was evil. God's intention was good, for by it God brought about His purpose and plan. One action two intentions compatible in all things. Joseph's brothers were accountable for their intentions, God is to be glorified for His.<BR/>I don't think God is morally bankrupt at all. Trusting in God and His promises produces humility in the believer. I try to follow the example that Christ laid down.<BR/>Since you blapheme God it sounds like your the one who is morally bankrupt. God blesses you every day with His common grace. May He bless you with His saving grace as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-36499462917548467682007-03-08T17:25:00.000-05:002007-03-08T17:25:00.000-05:00At 9:15 PM, March 01, 2007, Drunken Tune said...Th...<I>At 9:15 PM, March 01, 2007, Drunken Tune said...The parrot talks, but nobody's listening. Nothing (but a good, healthy smack of reason) is going to change his odd notions, and he's very good at evading punches.</I><BR/><BR/>Many comments later, and still right on the mark...<BR/><BR/>Good-bye, Calvin; I sincerely hope that eventually you will burst out of this morally bankrupt cage in which you've voluntarily locked yourself. Until you do, at the very least may those around you escape it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-83697802211556047742007-03-08T12:24:00.000-05:002007-03-08T12:24:00.000-05:00If you want to know what a Calvinist is and what t...If you want to know what a Calvinist is and what they believe read R.C. Sproul, John Piper, James White. You've got me confused with a hyper-Calvinist. Again, sinful man doesn't want to have anything to do with God. Therefore, God is Just in punishing him for his sin. Sinful man gets what he deserves. God's children get grace. They get what they don't deserve. God changes their heart and transforms them from God haters into God lovers. If you go to hell you have no one to blame but yourself. If you Go to heaven you have no one to thank but God. I've already discussed your other points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-85077253125901818102007-03-08T08:29:00.000-05:002007-03-08T08:29:00.000-05:00Again, you dodge the questions before you, Calvin....Again, you dodge the questions before you, Calvin. Why do you worship a God that breaks His own moral code constantly, if not for his power? You say that God is Holy, but what makes him holy if not his power? It certainly isn't the fact that he follows his moral law better than any other. According to you, the only moral law that exists for us is God's universal moral law, and by that law, God is evil.<BR/><BR/><I>You blaspheme A Holy God by calling Him evil and heinous and call His children names.</I><BR/><BR/>No, I blaspheme by saying the Christian God doesn't exist. I've said this many times to you, so don't pretend you haven't heard it. I piss <B>you</B> off by saying your version of God is evil (or, if not evil because his intentions are good, then incompetent). You are not God, no matter how well you think you understand his will. I do not blaspheme by insulting <B>your</B> twisted idea of God.<BR/><BR/><I>Man is responsible for his evil actions against God and man.</I><BR/><BR/>And God is not responsible (morally, at least) for his evil actions against man because he is powerful. I like the word "sycophant". It's fitting without being crass.<BR/><BR/><I>You don't understand God because you don't want to understand Him.</I><BR/><BR/>Really? I thought I didn't understand him because I haven't received his "grace". And I thought that God alone determines who will and will not receive his "grace", and that no action or desire of man can change this predestination one whit. Here, I'll quote you speaking to Tommy:<BR/><BR/><I>You lack the gift of faith because God hasn't chosen to give it to you.</I><BR/><BR/>So which is it, do I not understand God because I choose not to, leaving God powerless (whether by nature or by choice) to make me understand? Or do I not understand God because God has chosen not to give me his "grace", leaving me powerless to understand? You can see that these are mutually exclusive ideas here--either my action has no influence on my ability to understand (Calvinism), or my action has some influence on my ability to understand...you can't have it both ways.<BR/><BR/>Are you sure you're a Calvinist? <BR/><BR/>If so, you either really haven't thought about it much, or you subscribe to the increasignly popular philosophy of Lying for Jesus (LfJ).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-45594225352683800092007-03-07T23:01:00.000-05:002007-03-07T23:01:00.000-05:00God says that vengeance is mine and I will repay. ...God says that vengeance is mine and I will repay. I place my trust in God. God will vindicate His Children. You people only read what you want to read and hear what you want to hear. Man is responsible for his evil actions against God and man. At the cross God allowed the murder of His Son. Man's intentions were evil God's intentions were good. Man is condemned for his evil intentions, God is glorified for His good intentions. You blaspheme A Holy God by calling Him evil and heinous and call His children names. You don't understand God because you don't want to understand Him. Therefore you are responsible for your intentional blasphemy. I have tried to explain over and over again but you still don't get it. You're not listening to everything I say. You hear only what you want to hear. And see only what you want to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-73253969507354064862007-03-07T16:57:00.000-05:002007-03-07T16:57:00.000-05:00**What am I taking out of context? What am I misre...**What am I taking out of context? What am I misrepresenting, and how am I misrepresenting it?** <BR/><BR/>You seem to have summed up Calvin's position. Because I'm reading his comments the same as you. <BR/><BR/>**Then tell me why you worship a being that does things that you think would be evil if anyone else did them** And therein lies the crux of the matter. According to the evangelical, our sense of morality can only come from God. But it's that same sense of morality that tells me many of the actions in the Old Testament, either done by God or ordered by God, are heinous. <BR/><BR/>**because you haven't received his "grace" allowing you to understand him.** No doubt. But that again takes one back to the question of why we're blamed for "hating" God if God hasn't allowed us to understand Him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-65733734371664747382007-03-07T16:37:00.000-05:002007-03-07T16:37:00.000-05:00Shygetz: What am I misrepresenting, and how am I ...<I>Shygetz: What am I misrepresenting, and how am I misrepresenting it? Or do I just make you uncomfortable by pointing out inconvenient and unflattering facts?</I><BR/><BR/>I would guess the latter, Shy.<BR/><BR/>In addition, I predict that Calvin is probably going to answer your question by saying that of course you're misrepresenting god because you haven't received his "grace" allowing you to understand him.<BR/><BR/>Which still depicts a god unworthy of our worship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-85708193428863814542007-03-07T08:54:00.000-05:002007-03-07T08:54:00.000-05:00Once again, Calvin makes assertions without eviden...Once again, Calvin makes assertions without evidence to back them up. What am I taking out of context? What am I misrepresenting, and how am I misrepresenting it? Or do I just make you uncomfortable by pointing out inconvenient and unflattering facts?<BR/><BR/>You say what God does is good solely because he is God, correct? If I were to act exactly as God does following his moral code (say, by causing the slaughter of thousands of innocent children), it would be evil, correct? And why? Because God is omnipotent--all powerful. You worship God and believe he is good not because he is an example (even if unreachable) you think you should follow in order to be good, but because he is powerful. That makes you a toady (or if you prefer another term: bootlick, apple-polisher, sycophant).<BR/><BR/>Am I wrong? Then tell me why you worship a being that does things that you think would be evil if anyone else did them. What exempts God from the absolute moral law you think exists if not his power?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-19724144077607005762007-03-06T17:10:00.000-05:002007-03-06T17:10:00.000-05:00Once again shygetz comes rolling in sounding like ...Once again shygetz comes rolling in sounding like a madman. He doesn't listen to anything that is being said. Things are taken out of context, misrepresented, and misunderstood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-77013519888726878582007-03-06T10:18:00.000-05:002007-03-06T10:18:00.000-05:00Calvin represents the ultimate in authoritarian pe...Calvin represents the ultimate in authoritarian personality. He doesn't even recognize the idea that God <I>could be</I> evil. Since God is in charge in his worldview, whatever God does must, by definition, be good. Which, actually, is the definition of moral relativism--in Calvin's worldview, the need to adhere to a moral code is entirely dependent upon your relative amount of power. And since God is powerful, he can do whatever he wants and it is "good". Since we are not powerful, we are "evil" regardless of what we do and deserve whatever we get. Calvin worships power, not goodness, and as such inherits a long heritage of toadies stretching back into the animal kingdom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com