tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post115185394403116086..comments2023-12-01T18:05:24.875-05:00Comments on Debunking Christianity: Calvinism Explains Everything...and Nothing.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-65122814788888797932010-04-22T15:04:34.667-04:002010-04-22T15:04:34.667-04:00dear brother loftus
i read and reread this post..
...dear brother loftus<br />i read and reread this post..<br /><br /> i think God has choosen you..<br /><br />you know the implications of calvinistic system ..<br /><br />i believe (i believe in God..christ physical resurrection etc... so there is no reason to believe me ) that ...i was watching television and i lost my thought.....<br /><br />i think this is what i wanted to say..i believe that you might be right. when u said....<br />..God may be leading them astray, based upon his secretive will, only to cast them in hell for his own glory. For all they know God may turn around and reward those of us who are atheists etc....<br /><br />the system should lead -- many multile conclusion be be garnered....<br /><br />but i do not think god is so manevolent...<br /><br />anyways...all the best....i guess i want to readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12750708072117782514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-39032171456664920522009-11-14T19:23:46.956-05:002009-11-14T19:23:46.956-05:00Calvin, like so many Christian "thinkers"...Calvin, like so many Christian "thinkers" became giddy with the act of mental masturbation (known in Christian circles as theological speculation) and felt that he had, however briefly, escaped the limits of his own humanity by catching a glimpse, in the moment of orgasm, of a being utterly other than himself. In short he allowed his own flight of intellectual fancy to scare the living daylights out of him, and in doing so became masochistically addicted to what is perhaps the bleakest, most terrifying, and implacably inhumane production of the overheated mind of man: Calvin's God.Bronxboy47https://www.blogger.com/profile/12820086206830534185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-25127748806651511792009-08-29T15:11:24.796-04:002009-08-29T15:11:24.796-04:00Only a complete lunatic could take seriously any a...Only a complete lunatic could take seriously any argument that begins with a primitive creation myth about an all powerful god, a man, a woman magically created from the man's rib, and a snake. The problem is that the vast majority of sheeple on the earth suffer from temporal lobe insanity. They may have "calculator intelligence" but have little conceptual intelligence or capacity for critical thought, and only survive because they manage to focus their cerebral cortex at least part of the time sufficiently to earn a living and manage the functional demands of everyday life. Religion and religionists have always exploited their tendency to emotionalism and lack of capacity for rational thought to achieve power and/or wealth.lifestylewellnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14411366193051306722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-9662350382159505072009-05-30T01:48:41.122-04:002009-05-30T01:48:41.122-04:00This post was marvelous! Having been a Calvinist ...This post was marvelous! Having been a Calvinist for the past 16 years I agree that it explains everything, and nothing. It is an exercise in mental gymnastics and futility. But it's weak point may be more in the execution than the doctrine. <br /><br />Calvinism, as demonstrated in practice, is a harsh, demanding, discriminatory, sexist, and extremely judgmental mindset, because it accepts the Bible as a whole as truth. The lifestyle that such faith demands can drive a person to the breaking point. Calvinism is the strongest case for Christianity. The Bible clearly teaches Calvinism.<br /><br />But even Calvinists don't believe Calvinism. Attempting to separate from my wacko hyper Calvinist husband I was told I was "refusing to live where He (God) put you". And that my attitude should be “Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him!” <br /><br />WHY? <br /><br />If God wants me to slay me so badly, why should I trust Him? And furthermore, what difference does it make to another Calvinist what I do, if God is supposedly in control of my mind and body? Why try and convince me of anything? <br /><br />For a Christian to become a Calvinist is easy. Believe the Bible. But to remain a Calvinist one must concede his/her life is essentially futile.<br /><br />It is a very small step from Calvinism to Agnosticism.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372065449002325579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-58953648582738704792008-06-10T15:46:00.000-04:002008-06-10T15:46:00.000-04:00I suppose leaving a comment is pointless two years...I suppose leaving a comment is pointless two years later, but a tiny correction needs to be made.<BR/><BR/><B>John W. Loftus said...<BR/>Okay so far? That’s why Calvin describes it as a “horrible decree.”</B><BR/><BR/>In reply, I quote Alister McGrath:<BR/><BR/>"In writing of predestination at one point, Calvin appears to speak of it as a 'horrible decree': 'The decree, I admit, is <I>horrible</I>.' However, the Latin term <I>horribile</I> is better translated as 'awesome'; Calvin's own French translation of the passage (1560) reads: 'I confess that this decree must frighten us' (<I>doit nous epouvanter</I>)." (Alister McGrath, "Christian Theology", Fourth Edition, 2007. 381-382 emphasis original).<BR/><BR/>Nothing monumental against what was written, just some details.Ryan Clevengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01374738330734159619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-64473590267298669472007-06-10T23:17:00.000-04:002007-06-10T23:17:00.000-04:00JW Majors wrote:"Men don't want a God who works a ...JW Majors wrote:<BR/>"Men don't want a God who works a complete plan. They want a brain-dead moron who operates at random."<BR/>* * * * * * * *<BR/><BR/>Isn't that a familiar charge those labeled "Arminian" level against your "Calvinism"? Men are nothing more than Robots (according to wise Calvin) and it takes a cold robot to follow the icy thinking. And all you can do is (dare) hope you are elect? What if you aren't? Seriously (while you are burning eternally). I have read that it is even an 'athemaa' to pray for grace (stated in one of those man made creeds).<BR/><BR/>Yes, Calvinism did indeed whip me up into a frenzy... of considering the 'terrible decree' that aims to remove 'hope' from the dictionary for all men. It certainly does appear that the entire message of Calvinism is the anti-news, usually as a follow up to counter John 3:16. It did indeed cause me to question many things, with the brain that God gave me. We were created, it is said in His image.<BR/><BR/>And wasn't it Jesus who said 'you being evil know how to give good things to your children.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-78344071473353946722007-02-10T15:49:00.000-05:002007-02-10T15:49:00.000-05:00Almost everything that is said on this site is sai...Almost everything that is said on this site is said by man's perspective and totally takes the scripture out of context. The truth is you were never really Christians read John 17.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1151964712778914872006-07-03T18:11:00.000-04:002006-07-03T18:11:00.000-04:0018And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Tea...18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, even God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor thy father and mother. 21And he said, All these things have I observed from my youth up. 22And when Jesus heard it, he said unto him, One thing thou lackest yet: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23But when he heard these things, he became exceeding sorrowful; for he was very rich. 24And Jesus seeing him said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to enter in through a needle’s eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.<BR/>American Standard Version. <BR/><BR/>Question, did Jesus want this man to follow him, or not? Yes or no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1151954932752623992006-07-03T15:28:00.000-04:002006-07-03T15:28:00.000-04:00Christian Philosopher Vic Reppert has previously c...Christian Philosopher Vic Reppert has previously commented on Calvinism and the problem of evil <A HREF="http://dangerousidea.blogspot.com/2005/03/why-calvinists-cant-solve-problem-of.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>He argues that "the theist who is as Calvinist is thoroughly embarrassed in the face of the atheist argument."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1151947059241934562006-07-03T13:17:00.000-04:002006-07-03T13:17:00.000-04:00How is it possible to trust any of these Calvinist...How is it possible to trust any of these Calvinistic conclusions?<BR/><BR/>What...you don't trust that someone who's totally depraved knows what they're talking about? ;)slaveofonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493574936843969520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1151888794439988112006-07-02T21:06:00.000-04:002006-07-02T21:06:00.000-04:00As far as the Calvinist knows, God’s secretive wil...As far as the Calvinist knows, God’s secretive will may be that they should be deceived about Calvinism. Based on their own theology they have no reason to trust God…none. <BR/><BR/>Agreed :-)<BR/>~BrotherDBrother Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04645401412444899487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-1151883858204827302006-07-02T19:44:00.000-04:002006-07-02T19:44:00.000-04:00Brilliant post, John. Wow! I'm stunned.Brilliant post, John. Wow! I'm stunned.mdf1960https://www.blogger.com/profile/05788079868613957995noreply@blogger.com