Debate with Jerry McDonald: Fourth Round

The fourth round of my debate with preacher Jerry McDonald is now complete—there is one final round left (consisting of one affirmative and one rebuttal statement), plus Jerry’s concluding summary.

10 comments:

Prof Reed said...

They now require registration to see the board. That is truly unfortunate as I think it will limit its exposure.

Spencer said...

Interested readers can also go to Jerry McDonald's website to read the debate: http://www.challenge2.org/introres.pdf (no registration necessary). However, he has yet to upload the fourth round statements.

Chris said...

Even worse than registration being required, I received this after filling out the registration form: "Sorry, registration has been disabled by the administrator."

Very unfortunate.

Spencer said...

Damn -- hopefully the problem is only temporary.

Theological Discourse said...

Your whole argument was debunked at tweb already.

Spencer said...

TD wrote:
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Your whole argument was debunked at tweb already.
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You know, that's really amazing when you consider the fact that my "whole" argument -- that is, in its entirety -- was never addressed! Arguments Arg1, Arg2, Arg 3, Arg 1+3 (appears in my second rebuttal), and Arg5 were never even mentioned.

As for Arg4 and Arg6: the former you still misunderstand, and the latter you haven't even begun to challenge.

Thus it is amazing, then, when you consider everything I just mentioned, that my "whole" argument was nevertheless able to be debunked. Great job!

Spencer said...

To Chris and everyone else interested: if you still can't access the forums, email me and I'll send you the fourth round statements. spencelo@gmail.com

Theological Discourse said...


You know, that's really amazing when you consider the fact that my "whole" argument -- that is, in its entirety -- was never addressed! Arguments Arg1, Arg2, Arg 3, Arg 1+3 (appears in my second rebuttal), and Arg5 were never even mentioned.

You posted your argument at tweb and it was found to be entirely dependent upon pure speculation and blind faith. If what you posted at tweb was not your entire argument than I withdraw that statement, but you clearly insinuated it was.


As for Arg4 and Arg6: the former you still misunderstand, and the latter you haven't even begun to challenge.

Not misunderstood in the slightest, it is entierly dependent upon future speculation and that logic can be used against you. The ET speculation was already shown by another individual to be based upon less evidence and require more faith than Christianities explanation.


Thus it is amazing, then, when you consider everything I just mentioned, that my "whole" argument was nevertheless able to be debunked. Great job!

You quite clearly insinuated that was you whole argument you posted at tweb.

Spencer said...

TD,

I posted my ENTIRE first rebuttal on tweb (see posts 10 and 12), so I didn't just "insinuate" that my whole argument was on tweb, I explicitly stated it. No one, however, bothered to address my first rebuttal in its entirety (i.e. arguments Arg1, Arg2, Arg3, and Arg5).

TD wrote:
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Not misunderstood in the slightest, it is entierly dependent upon future speculation and that logic can be used against you. The ET speculation was already shown by another individual to be based upon less evidence and require more faith than Christianities explanation.
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Yes, you misunderstand Arg4. You charged me with "favoring" one speculation over another, which is false.

As for Arg6, no one has made any substantive objections against what I wrote. See post 12 and my comments on Arg6 -- interact with it, if you can.

Spencer said...

The fourth round statements have been posted at Jerry's website: http://www.challenge2.org/introres.pdf