Calvinism Explains Everything...and Nothing.

I liked what Matthew said so much that I want to use it as a basis for making an argument against Calvinism, if I can.

Here Matthew wrote: "But is it always rational to accept a simpler theory? It is true that simpler theories always have greater explanatory scope. But there is a point where a theory can have too much explanatory power in which it explains everything, and actually doesn't really explain anything because there is no observation or fact which it cannot explain. Such a theory, having too much explanatory power ceases to be a simple theory and becomes simplistic."

Too much explanatory power? No observation or fact which it cannot explain? What does this mean when applied to Calvinism? Let’s explore this.

Take for instance their whole notion of a completely sovereign God. God does everything…everything. There is no room for human causation…none. It’s all been planned in advance, and God executes everything according to his eternal plan, which he has always had. Nothing can happen outside of God’s plan…nothing. He’s in complete control of everything that happens. If it happens in our world or in heaven, then God planned it, and he did it…everything.

Calvinists will argue that human beings desire to do the things that they do, and so God is not to be blamed when they do evil deeds, even if God decreed that they should do them. However, when pushed on this Calvinists will also recognize that God decrees that human beings also DESIRE to do everything that they do.

The Calvinist will also have to admit that whether or not a human being thinks Calvinism is true is also decreed by their sovereign God. So, for everything we as human beings do, and everything that we believe, God makes us do things and think things the way we do. This is the bottom line for Calvinists, regardless of the logical gerrymandering they do when using linguistics to defend this theology, which of course, once again, God decreed that they should do in order to defend their theology.

Okay so far? That’s why Calvin describes it as a “horrible decree.”

Now what reason does God have for punishing human beings on earth in hurricanes, and fires, and diseases like the Spanish Influenza which killed millions of people, and then later sending us to hell when we die? Well, the offered reason is because we have sinned. Since we sin, God has a right to do with us as he pleases and there can be no critique of God’s dealings with us. We deserve everything that happens to us. But the only thing we can be guilty of is that we desired to sin, and the reason why we desired to sin in the first place is because God sovereignly decreed from all of eternity that we should desire to do every sin throughout our entire lives.

And what reason does God have for sending innocent babies to hell if they die? The offered reason is because of Adam and Eve’s sin in the Garden. But here again, why did Adam and Eve sin in the first place? They sinned because God decreed from all of eternity that they should sin. He produced in them the desire to sin, and made Eve grab the fruit, eat it, and made her desire to give it to Adam, who also was made to eat it. Their only crime was in being created. To blame them because of God-implanted desires cannot be their fault anymore than a puppet on strings can be blamed for any of its actions. But because they sinned in the Garden, God is now free to do with human beings as he pleases, and he is not to be blamed for anything he does to us if we suffer.

This Calvinistic God also has two wills, one revealed in the Bible and a secretive one…the real one…that decrees the things we actually do. But both wills cannot be true at the same time. If the Bible says, “thou shalt not kill,” and then God secretively decrees both the desire to kill and he actually takes a man’s hand and causes the arm to swing an ax to split another man’s head open, there is a contradiction in what God actually wants us to do. Does God want this man to kill or not? The contradiction is resolved for the Calvinist because she will say that God’s secretive will is his true will. But this means that, on Calvinistic grounds, the Bible is full of lies and cannot be trusted when it tells us what God wants us to do. Calvinists will respond that the Bible is used as a means to get people to do his secretive will one way or another, good deeds or evil deeds. If, for instance, God says “Thou shalt not kill,” it might actually lead someone to kill out of rebellion, which is what God secretively decreed all along. And in this way, God needs the Bible to accomplish his secretive will.

The Calvinist will fall back on the idea that God is an artist and he’s creating a massive mural painting on a wall. In any painting there will be bright colors and dark ones. There will be highlights and shadows. There will be points of focus, and points that accentuate the points of focus. God’s painting is beautiful, we’re told, and he needs all the colors to create it. So some humans will be points of focus while others will be in the recesses, dark and foreboding. We who want to judge the painting simply don’t understand what God is doing. We have no right to complain if we are used to accentuate the beautiful colors in the mural and are condemned to hell, because after all, we all deserve hell. The end result will be a beautiful painting that brings him glory. Every color is needed, and likewise, every evil deed and every condemned soul is needed, to make this a beautiful painting and to bring him ultimate glory.

If we say that such a God does not care for us and is only interested in himself, the Calvinist will respond that he has a moral right to be concerned with his own glory over anyone else's, since he alone deserves all the glory. We deserve none of it. The Calvinist will claim that we deserve nothing…nothing. And why is that? Because we are “worms,” miserable sinners deserving of nothing. Any mercy God may want to offer us by decreeing such things that bring us happiness, including salvation, are undeserved. They will claim we all deserve to be in hell, so anything good we receive is because of God’s love and mercy extended toward us. And why do we deserve to be in hell? The bottom line is because it brings God the most glory. If God can cause us to desire to do evil deeds, then he can also cause us to desire to do only good deeds. But doing so would not bring him as much glory, and as his creatures we have no right to complain. This end result is what will bring God the most glory in the painting he’s creating on the wall. We should probably even be happy to be in hell, for if we do, we’ll bring God the glory that he deserves for both decreeing that we desired to reject the gospel, and also decreeing that we did. “Praise God for what he has done!”—sorry.

Now, how did Calvin (and Augustine before him) come to the conclusion of what’s known as Calvinism? They argued for it from the Bible and outside sources, including Plato. They reasoned that this describes their God. Man is totally depraved, God’s election is unconditional, Jesus only died for the elect, God’s grace is irresistible, and once saved no man can reject his salvation. All of these doctrines are disputable on exegetical grounds, and I’ll let non-Calvinists do that. But they are based upon the exegesis of a historically conditioned document purportedly being from God, even though a proper understanding of history (and the documents that report that history) is itself fraught with so many problems that most historians now claim we cannot know exactly what happened in the past nor even what people believed in the past. But the bottom line is that these theological conclusions based upon Calvinistic grounds, were the conclusions that God had decreed both Augustine and Calvin should arrive at from all of eternity.

If so, how is it possible to trust any of these Calvinistic conclusions if we don’t have access to God’s secretive will? As far as the Calvinist knows, God’s secretive will may be that they should be deceived about Calvinism. Based on their own theology they have no reason to trust God…none. God may be leading them astray, based upon his secretive will, only to cast them in hell for his own glory. For all they know God may turn around and reward those of us who are atheists, simply because he secretively decreed us into unbelief. For the Calvinist to proclaim that she can trust God just because he says he “doesn’t lie” doesn’t solve anything, for the Bible is merely his revealed will, which leads people into believing or not believing what God’s secretive will has decreed from all of eternity for them.

All that the Calvinist can say is that “this is what God has led me to believe, and that’s why I believe it.” There is absolutely no guarantee that what they believe is true, based upon their own theology. And I can say the exact same thing as an atheist from their perspective: “this is what your God has led me to believe, and that’s why I believe it.”

So here’s where Calvinism has too much explanatory power. It explains everything…and nothing. It has an answer for everything…and nothing.

Take for instance the whole problem of human suffering. The amount of human suffering is intense around the globe. There is an unbearable amount of it for many people. Indonesia suffered through a tsunami that killed a quarter of a million people due to an underwater earthquake that God could've averted before it happened (and none of us would've known God averted it, either). A year later the survivors have suffered through a horrible earthquake which killed even more of them that God could've secretly averted too.

The Calvinist answer is that none of us deserve anything from God. We deserve hell, so what’s a little tsunami and/or earthquake on top of it? So there’s the answer. It’s simple. It explains everything. And there are no silly questions left over. The Calvinist answer is that everything God does is good, even if we cannot understand it. So every instance of human suffering that any human being has ever experienced is good. Everything that happens brings God glory. We are not to complain. He's creating a beautiful painting. God knows what he’s doing. We should trust him.

But think of that last statement! “We should trust him.” Why does a Calvinist think anyone...anyone...should trust their God? Why? What reasons are there for trusting such a God? There are none…none!…not on Calvinistic grounds, for reasons I just specified. Who knows what God’s secretive will really is? They don’t. On their own grounds they can’t trust him to even be truthful with them.

Since this is the case, I can look at the amount of suffering in this world and reasonably conclude there is no good God. If he exists, he’s a monster. That’s the reasonable conclusion to arrive at when looking at the observable facts. Why shouldn't I trust my own conclusions when I am not even given one reason why I should trust or believe in Calvin’s God? I already know I cannot trust such a Calvinistic God on it’s own grounds, so when I see the amount of suffering in this world that I do, I am better off trusting what I conclude, than in believing what Calvinists do. They have no basis for trusting their own God! They have no basis for calling their God good! They have no basis for believing he never lies! They have no basis for believing that our sins are such terrible deeds that deserve hell! They don't even have a basis for believing God is good, since we have no reason for trusting God when he says that he is good, especially when all the observable evidence of suffering in this world overwhelmingly denies this! But the Calvinist has an answer for this too. God is decreeing that I reject him for his glory. That's a simple answer. It solves everything.....and nothing. But it absolutely fails to take into account the observable suffering that human beings have observed since the dawn of time.

That’s why Calvinism explains everything…and nothing. It has moved from being a simple theory to a simplistic theory. It explains nothing…nothing. There is no reason why I should become a Calvinist. None. There is no reason why I should trust that God. None. Since I cannot trust such a being, and since I can see no reasonable solution to the problem of observable suffering coming from such a God, I reject him. The observable facts of human suffering around the world, which could take up an entire encyclopedia, say otherwise.

14 comments:

Mark said...

Brilliant post, John. Wow! I'm stunned.

DBULL said...

As far as the Calvinist knows, God’s secretive will may be that they should be deceived about Calvinism. Based on their own theology they have no reason to trust God…none.

Agreed :-)
~BrotherD

Mark Cote said...

Do you think this happens to a couple of Calvinists every now and then?

http://goddoesntwork.blogspot.com/2006/07/thems-rules.html

slaveofone said...

How is it possible to trust any of these Calvinistic conclusions?

What...you don't trust that someone who's totally depraved knows what they're talking about? ;)

John W. Loftus said...

Christian Philosopher Vic Reppert has previously commented on Calvinism and the problem of evil here.

He argues that "the theist who is as Calvinist is thoroughly embarrassed in the face of the atheist argument."

John W. Loftus said...

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, even God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor thy father and mother. 21And he said, All these things have I observed from my youth up. 22And when Jesus heard it, he said unto him, One thing thou lackest yet: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23But when he heard these things, he became exceeding sorrowful; for he was very rich. 24And Jesus seeing him said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to enter in through a needle’s eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
American Standard Version.

Question, did Jesus want this man to follow him, or not? Yes or no?

j w majors said...

As a Calvinist I can only say that every heresy,whether theological or moral,works itself,either first or last,into a frenzy against Calvinism. Nothing is more hated by the sinful pots that the Potter has complete control over them,especially their final destiny. Men don't want a God who works a complete plan. They want a brain-dead moron who operates at random. Most of you on this blog were deceived by the lie of Armininism. You were told you had the power to accept Jesus and to determing the will of Jehovah. You have found out otherwise. At least a Calvinist would have told you the truth and you could have spent your years enjoying the pleasures of sin. Just remember your slanders roll off Jehovah like water off a duck's back. The graveyards are filled with men and Nations that thought they could win a war against the Great One. They lost and so will you.

Anonymous said...

Almost everything that is said on this site is said by man's perspective and totally takes the scripture out of context. The truth is you were never really Christians read John 17.

Anonymous said...

JW Majors wrote:
"Men don't want a God who works a complete plan. They want a brain-dead moron who operates at random."
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Isn't that a familiar charge those labeled "Arminian" level against your "Calvinism"? Men are nothing more than Robots (according to wise Calvin) and it takes a cold robot to follow the icy thinking. And all you can do is (dare) hope you are elect? What if you aren't? Seriously (while you are burning eternally). I have read that it is even an 'athemaa' to pray for grace (stated in one of those man made creeds).

Yes, Calvinism did indeed whip me up into a frenzy... of considering the 'terrible decree' that aims to remove 'hope' from the dictionary for all men. It certainly does appear that the entire message of Calvinism is the anti-news, usually as a follow up to counter John 3:16. It did indeed cause me to question many things, with the brain that God gave me. We were created, it is said in His image.

And wasn't it Jesus who said 'you being evil know how to give good things to your children.'

Ryan said...

I suppose leaving a comment is pointless two years later, but a tiny correction needs to be made.

John W. Loftus said...
Okay so far? That’s why Calvin describes it as a “horrible decree.”


In reply, I quote Alister McGrath:

"In writing of predestination at one point, Calvin appears to speak of it as a 'horrible decree': 'The decree, I admit, is horrible.' However, the Latin term horribile is better translated as 'awesome'; Calvin's own French translation of the passage (1560) reads: 'I confess that this decree must frighten us' (doit nous epouvanter)." (Alister McGrath, "Christian Theology", Fourth Edition, 2007. 381-382 emphasis original).

Nothing monumental against what was written, just some details.

DJ said...

This post was marvelous! Having been a Calvinist for the past 16 years I agree that it explains everything, and nothing. It is an exercise in mental gymnastics and futility. But it's weak point may be more in the execution than the doctrine.

Calvinism, as demonstrated in practice, is a harsh, demanding, discriminatory, sexist, and extremely judgmental mindset, because it accepts the Bible as a whole as truth. The lifestyle that such faith demands can drive a person to the breaking point. Calvinism is the strongest case for Christianity. The Bible clearly teaches Calvinism.

But even Calvinists don't believe Calvinism. Attempting to separate from my wacko hyper Calvinist husband I was told I was "refusing to live where He (God) put you". And that my attitude should be “Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him!”

WHY?

If God wants me to slay me so badly, why should I trust Him? And furthermore, what difference does it make to another Calvinist what I do, if God is supposedly in control of my mind and body? Why try and convince me of anything?

For a Christian to become a Calvinist is easy. Believe the Bible. But to remain a Calvinist one must concede his/her life is essentially futile.

It is a very small step from Calvinism to Agnosticism.

lifestylewellness said...

Only a complete lunatic could take seriously any argument that begins with a primitive creation myth about an all powerful god, a man, a woman magically created from the man's rib, and a snake. The problem is that the vast majority of sheeple on the earth suffer from temporal lobe insanity. They may have "calculator intelligence" but have little conceptual intelligence or capacity for critical thought, and only survive because they manage to focus their cerebral cortex at least part of the time sufficiently to earn a living and manage the functional demands of everyday life. Religion and religionists have always exploited their tendency to emotionalism and lack of capacity for rational thought to achieve power and/or wealth.

Bronxboy47 said...

Calvin, like so many Christian "thinkers" became giddy with the act of mental masturbation (known in Christian circles as theological speculation) and felt that he had, however briefly, escaped the limits of his own humanity by catching a glimpse, in the moment of orgasm, of a being utterly other than himself. In short he allowed his own flight of intellectual fancy to scare the living daylights out of him, and in doing so became masochistically addicted to what is perhaps the bleakest, most terrifying, and implacably inhumane production of the overheated mind of man: Calvin's God.

i guess i want to read said...

dear brother loftus
i read and reread this post..

i think God has choosen you..

you know the implications of calvinistic system ..

i believe (i believe in God..christ physical resurrection etc... so there is no reason to believe me ) that ...i was watching television and i lost my thought.....

i think this is what i wanted to say..i believe that you might be right. when u said....
..God may be leading them astray, based upon his secretive will, only to cast them in hell for his own glory. For all they know God may turn around and reward those of us who are atheists etc....

the system should lead -- many multile conclusion be be garnered....

but i do not think god is so manevolent...

anyways...all the best....